League Restructuring Update - reviewing
different options ...
Date: 25 January 2000
To: Senior Men's Clubs in MARFU
cc: MARFU Board of Directors
From: Eric Pittelkau, MARFU Vice President
and Chair, Competitions Committee
Subject: League Reorganization - Status
Report Prior to MARFU Board Meeting
he senior men's clubs in MARFU met on
December 5, 1999 to discuss reorganizing the leagues within MARFU. At the
conclusion of the meeting, an ad hoc group was named to recommend a final
plan after considering further options. I also asked each club to state
their specific objections to the plan I presented. It pains me to report
that not only is there not a plan that the ad hoc group has agreed upon, but
there has been precious little input from this group or the rest of the
clubs, either as comments or suggestions on any plan or as new plans.
I deferred to a request to give the subject
a rest over the holidays. Subsequently, I essentially delegated
leadership on this subject, something I now regret. Therefore, I am
reasserting my leadership role and presenting to you the various plans that
have been considered together with my analysis of the pros and cons of each.
I'll make no secret of that fact that I still consider the plan I presented
to you in December to be the best alternative, but I have looked for
compromises where I think they are possible. I can't force the clubs into
anything, but I will state my case to you and the board, and then we'll see
what happens.
This is the text of the first e-mail I sent
to the ad hoc group sometime in the last month. It describes four plans that
were options at that time. Since then, there were two more options put forth
that I describe after the following text. The fifth plan was presented by
Marty Sarkees (Brandywine Rugby) that is a variation on the original plan I
presented. The sixth plan was presented by Carl Schmitt, David Chapman, and
Paul Fordiani. I will give you my commentary on each plan. Note that Plan 2
is from Paul Fordiani and Plan 3 is also from Carl Schmitt, but these two
plans aren't related to Plan 6.
Gentlemen,
In this e-mail I first present each of the
four plans followed by my remarks as to pros and cons of each. After the
four plans, I list the teams that would be in each division under Plan 3
(Carl Schmitt's original plan) and Plan 4 (my rework of Carl's plan). I did
not list the teams that would be in each division under Plan 1 (already done
in previous mailings) and Plan 2 (not fully determined, but it should be
easy to imagine what the divisions would look like).
Plan 1. The original plan as I presented it
at the 12/5/99 meeting.
The basics of the plan are as follows. A
12-team Championship Division from which contenders for the Division I and
II playoffs would come. A two-group, 16-team (maximum) Territorial Division
from which the two group winners would participate in the Division II
playoffs in a format to be determined, possibly as part of the promotion and
relegation process. If necessary, the VRU Division III would be left as it
currently exists. The Championship Division would be a single round robin
played over the fall (about 7 matches) and the spring (about 4 matches). The
Territorial Division would be a single round robin (with possible
modifications for the South Group depending on the number of teams) played
in the fall.
Playoffs and promotion/relegation would be
in the spring.
This plan puts the best six Division II
teams (by historical evidence) on the field of competition with the Division
I teams. It does not require them to give up competition for the Division II
championship (territorial and national); in fact, all of them would qualify
for the MARFU playoffs. The remaining Division II teams would also be
competing for the Division II championship, but these teams have less
assurance of being in the playoffs.
While the details remain to be worked out,
it is easy to envision a playoff format that includes the promotion and
relegation matches against the bottom two teams from the Championship
Division. While some see the split season as a downside, the fact remains
that teams preparing for the playoffs must find a way to be competitive in
the spring after a winter break, and that is still true in this plan.
Further, the Division I vs Division II matches in the Championship Division
count in the standings and are not regarded as non-league matches. This plan
avoids conflict with the VRU's Ed & Sandy Lee Cup at the end of October.
Championship Division
| Washington |
Media |
| PAC |
Brandywine |
| NOVA |
Frederick |
| Phila.-Whitemarsh |
Washington Irish |
| Baltimore-Chesapeake |
Norfolk |
| Maryland Exiles |
Raleigh |
Territorial Division
| North (8) |
South (6) |
| Blackthorn |
James River |
| Lancaster |
United |
| Second City Troop |
Virginia |
| Doylestown |
Western Suburbs |
| Hibernians |
Rocky Gorge |
| Schuylkill River |
Severn River |
| Harrisburg |
Wilmington |
If the VRU Division III needs additional
matches, we can create a schedule that frees up James River, United, and
Virginia on selected weekends. The PRU will devise ways to fill in the
schedule for its three teams.
Plan 2. Paul Fordiani's plan.
If my reading of Paul's plan is wrong, my
apologies to Paul. I'm sure he will be quick to correct it if I've read it
wrong. In any case, this is an alternative, whether or not ascribed to Paul.
The Division II semifinalists from the Spring 2000 playoffs would be placed
in Division I to form a 10-team division. This division would play a single
round robin of 9 games in the fall with playoffs in the spring. Division II
would be two groups North and South of up to 10 teams each (though there are
not that many teams available currently).
The top Division II teams have said they do
not want to give up their desire to remain in Division II and be in a
position to compete for the Division II championship (territorial and
national). This plan would force four of those teams to do just that.
Perhaps it could be modified, similar to Plan 1, where the top Division II
teams simultaneously play for promotion and relegation and a playoff spot
with the bottom four teams from the top division. The nine-game schedule
will cause some problem (not insurmountable) for the VRU teams since the Ed
& Sandy Lee Cup is still scheduled for the end of October.
Plan 3. Carl Schmitt's original plan.
Division I and VRU Division III would stay
the same. This plan called for dropping one team from each Division II North
and South (possibly having the bottom two or three teams from each group
playoff to see which one drops instead of relegating the bottom team from
last season). This would create two seven teams groups that would
automatically create a bye week for two teams each week. These two teams
would be scheduled to play against a Division I team. At the end of the
season, each Division II team would have played six matches against the
other teams in their group plus one non-league match against a Division I
team. Each Division I team would have played five matches against the other
teams from their division plus one non-league match against a Division II
club.
Carl edited out my remark above that the
Division II teams having a bye would play against Division I teams,
presumably because he meant that they might also play against Division III
teams. That's fine for the VRU Division III. But that would mean fewer
matches created for Division I teams. The objection to Carl Schmitt's plan
is that it both keeps teams in Division III who had earned their way up and
moves teams to Division III who should be in Division II. If there were
complaints of disenfranchising teams from the Division II championships
before, there will certainly be more complaints about this under Carl's
plan. In addition, adding one match to the schedule for Division I goes only
a little way toward solving the problem of insufficient matches. And, it
reduces by one the number of league matches for Division II teams. It also
introduces a bye week (no game at all) into the Division I schedule.
Total - 20 teams
| Division I (6) |
Division II North (7) |
Division II South (7) |
| Washington |
Media |
Raleigh |
| PAC |
Frederick |
Washington Irish |
| NOVA |
Brandywine |
Norfolk |
| PW |
Blackthorn |
James River |
| Balt-Ches. |
Lancaster |
Rocky Gorge |
| Maryland Exiles |
SCT |
Virginia |
|
Doylestown |
United |
Notes (none of these six teams would be in
Division II)
-Severn River or the loser of a three-way
playoff would be dropped to Division III
-Western Suburbs or the loser of a
three-way playoff would be dropped to Division III
-Hibernians would have been relegated to
Division III if we remain the same as in 1999
-Schuylkill River lost the promotion match
after finishing first in EPRU Division III
-Harrisburg finished second in EPRU
Division III
-Wilmington finished fifth in EPRU Division
III
Plan 4. Eric Pittelkau's rework of Carl
Schmitt's plan.
Instead of dropping one team from each of
Division II North and South, the reworked plan would add a team to each
group creating two nine-team groups, eliminating any disenfranchisement. The
number of teams in Division I and the VRU Division III would remain as they
currently exist. At the end of the season, each Division II team would have
played eight matches against the other teams in their group plus one
non-league match against a Division I team. Each Division I team would have
played five matches against the other teams from their division plus three
non-league matches against Division II clubs.
This plan avoids putting teams into
Division III who definitely don't belong there while adding a few teams that
want to be in Division II. Division II teams now have a nine-game schedule,
but like Plan 2, this will create some problem (not insurmountable) for the
the VRU teams in Division II South. While the Division I teams now have an
eight-game schedule, the matches against Division II teams will generally be
of a lower grade than under Plan I (where only the best Division II teams
were matched up against Division I teams). If there were concerns before
about the Division II teams being overmatched, those concerns are now
increased.
As with Carl Schmitt's original plan, each
Division II team only has a single match against a Division I team. Rather
than only the best Division II teams playing multiple matches against
Division I teams, all teams including those who aren't competitive in
Division II will now be playing those matches.
Total - 24 teams
| Division I (6) |
Division II North (9) |
Division II South (9) |
| Washington |
Media |
Frederick |
| PAC |
Brandywine |
Raleigh |
| NOVA |
Blackthorn |
Washingon Irish |
| PW |
Lancaster |
Norfolk |
| Balt-Ches. |
SCT |
James River |
| Maryland Exiles |
Doylestown |
Rocky Gorge |
|
Severn River |
Virginia |
|
Hibernians |
United |
|
Schuylkill River |
Western Suburbs |
Notes (four of these six teams would be in
Division II; the other two would not be in Division II even if we stay with
the current league alignment).
-Frederick moved from the North group to
the South group
-Severn River earned promotion from
Division III
-Hibernians were the team that would have
been relegated to Division III
-Schuylkill River were the top team in EPRU
Division III but lost promotion
---Remaining in EPRU Division III -
-Harrisburg was the second team in EPRU
Division III
-Wilmington was the fifth team in EPRU
Division III
MORE NOTES ON PLAN 4
Further detailed scheduling notes on my
rework of Carl Schmitt's original plan One of my objections to Carl's plan
was that it excluded two teams who would be included under the current plan
for Division II. I have reworked his plan to prevent the exclusion of those
teams, and add two more from the EPRU.
| Division I (6) |
Division II North (9) |
Division II South (9) |
| Washington |
Media |
Frederick |
| PAC |
Brandywine |
Raleigh |
| NOVA |
Lancaster |
Washington Irish |
| Phila.Whitemarsh |
Blackthorn |
Norfolk |
| Balt.Chesapeake |
Second City Troop |
James River |
| Maryland Exiles |
Doylestown |
Rocky Gorge |
|
Hibernians (avoids
relegation) |
Virginia |
|
Schuylkill River |
United |
|
Severn River (won
promotion) |
Western Suburbs (was not
challenged) |
With 9 teams in each Division II group, 9
weekends are required to play the schedule with each team having a BYE week.
That means there are two Division II teams available each weekend to add to
the Division I schedule. I still have my objection to the lower-ranked
Division II teams playing Division I teams, but if we're going in this
direction, I'm happier with this plan than the other one. But, I'm sure the
Division I teams will use the opportunities to provide playing opportunities
to their lower side players.
So the question is how to work these games
into the Division I schedule.
Note that 9 weekends of 2 teams with BYEs
equals 18 games. Given 6 Division I teams, each of those teams can play 3
matches against Division II opponents. How to do this? First, we have to
create a 9-team schedule for 6 teams. This requires 9 weekends to play.
Observe.
First, just for argument's sake, assume
some ranking of the Division II teams in each group, and use the order I
have above. Each team will have a BYE in the week according to its rank.
(So, Media and Frederick will have a BYE in week 1.) Making the Division II
schedule is trivial.
Second, again for argument's sake, assume a
ranking for Division I in the order I specified.
Week 1
Washington and PAC vs Division II teams
NOVA vs B-C, PW vs Exiles
Week 2
NOVA and PW vs Division II teams
Washington vs B-C, PAC vs Exiles
Week 3
B-C and Exiles vs Division II teams
Washington and PAC bye, NOVA vs PW
Week 4
Washington and PAC vs Division II teams
NOVA vs Exiles, PW vs B-C
Week 5
NOVA and PW vs Division II teams
Washington vs Exiles, PAC vs B-C
Week 6
B-C and Exiles vs Division II teams
Washington vs NOVA, PAC vs PW
Week 7
Washington and PAC vs Division II teams
NOVA and PW bye, B-C vs Exiles
Week 8
NOVA and PW vs Division II teams
Washington vs PAC, B-C and Exiles bye
Week 9
B-C and Exiles vs Division II teams
Washington vs PW, PAC vs NOVA
Now we can move Weeks 1-9 to any order we
want. We can arrange a bye week for the Division I team on any weekend they
want. We can match up the Division I teams against whichever Division II
teams we want.
Each Division II team has to play only one
game against a Division I team.
Each Division I team has to play three
games against Division II teams.
Each Division II teams plays 4H/4A games
with one bye week somewhere in weeks 1-9 (not really a bye, they play a
Division I team).
Each Division I teams plays 8 matches, 5
against Division I teams, 3 against Division II teams.
Plan 5. From Marty Sarkees, a variation on
Plan 1.
I inadvertently left Marty's e-mail on my
computer at work, and I'm writing this from home. However, I hope to
reproduce what he intended. I'm sure Marty will correct any errors.
Starting with the twelve teams I identified
in Plan I for the Championship Division, Marty seeks to create a format that
can be played in a single season. He splits the twelve teams into three
groups of four teams. Each group has two Division I teams and two Division
II teams. Every club plays the three round robin matches within their group,
and they also play all the other like-division teams for another four
matches.
Group 1
Phila.Whitemarsh
Baltimore-Chesapeake
Media
Brandywine
Group 2
PAC
Maryland Exiles
Frederick
Washington Irish
Group 3
Washington
NOVA
Norfolk
Raleigh
I have analyzed this format, and the seven
matches can indeed be played in a seven week period. The Division I teams
advance to the playoffs on the basis of their overall record, and the
Division II teams advance to the playoffs on the basis of their overall
record. As with Plan 1, provisions can be made to include the top two teams
from the Territorial Division.
Plan 6. From Carl Schmitt, Paul Fordiani,
and David Chapman.
I have included the text of their e-mail,
followed by my commentary. The following is a COMPROMISE solution from Carl
Schmitt, Paul Fordiani and David Chapman; the three of us felt we had to
break the impasse and propose a good setup. Although it's not a sweeping
overhaul of our system, it provides a number of things:
1. It expands Div I to a solid number in
the out-years. It also opens up their playoff system.
2. It slightly reduces the size of Div II-N
and II-S, thereby allowing for additional matches with Div III opponents or
the junior sides of the large Div I clubs.
3. It provides a constant and automatic
promotion relegation between Div I and II so that the number of teams in Div
I stays constant. However, it also provides optional promotion/relegation
between Div II and III.
4. It provides additional matches for the
#5 and #6 Div I teams in the interim season (Fall 2000).
5. It keeps the Fall League, Late Fall All
Stars, Spring playoffs & touring structure.
We would like you to review this and
provide your concurrence.
With your agreement, we will forward to the
clubs for information and to the MARFU board for action at their 2/5/00
meeting.
Carl Schmitt, Paul Fordiani and David
Chapman
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Fall 2000
1. Keep Div I, II-N, II-S intact for one
final iteration.
2. At the end of Fall 2000, the top team
from each of Div II-N and II-S will be promoted to Div I status for Fall
2001, thereby creating an 8 team Div I in 2001.
3. At the end of Fall 2000, the relegation
process between Div II and Div III will be the same as currently
implemented.
4. Playoffs for Div I for the top four
clubs will be on 10/28 and 11/4.
5. The schedule for the 7 league matches
for the Fall 2000 Div II-N and II-S will be from 9/9-10/21. The schedule for
the 5 league matches for the Fall 2000 Div I league will be from 9/23-10/21.
6. On 10/28 and 11/4, the bottom two Div I
teams will have away matches scheduled with the #1 team in Div II-N and the
top non-VRU team in Div II-S. This scheduling will be automatic based on
final results of all three leagues.
Example: on 10/28, #5 in Div I will play
the highest ranked non-VRU team in Div II-S, while #6 in Div I will play the
#1 team in Div II-N. On the following weekend, they will switch opponents.
Note: VRU teams are excluded from this due
to the Ed Lee Cup (10/28-29) and select side preparation (11/4).
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Fall 2001
1. Div I has 8 teams and plays a 7 game
schedule. Playoffs are in Spring 2002 and are between the top 6 teams:
First round playoffs: #3 v #6 and #4 v #5
Semi-finals: #1 v winner of #4 v #5; #2 v
winner of #3 v #6
Final: Semi-final winners
2. Div II-N and II-S consists of 7 teams
and a 6 game season, thereby allowing open dates for Div III or Div I
B-sides. Div II playoffs are in Spring 2002 with 8 teams (using the current
structure for Div II-N and II-S playoffs).
3. The bottom two teams in Div I will be
automatically relegated to Div II-N or II-S as regionally appropriate. The
top team from each of II-N and II-S will move up for Fall 2002. Div II-N and
II-S sizing adjustment procedures will be determined at a later date.
4. Promotion/relegation between Div II and
III will be the same as the current system.
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Fall 2002
Stability!
Commentary on Plan 5 from Eric Pittelkau
This plan does precious little to
rectifying identified problems, and puts off any real change until 2001.
Automatic promotion of the top two Division II teams after the Fall 2000
season to Division I flies in the face of the clearly stated position of
every Division II club. They don't want to be in Division I and give up a
real chance to compete for the Division II championship. At least my
original plan preserved this option for Division II clubs while putting them
on the field with Division I clubs. The Division I clubs in Fall 2000 still
only have 5 league matches, though whoever finishes next to last and last
would get two friendly matches with Division II clubs, but they have to
travel to both of these matches.
There's no way to tell if the away match
will really be a local match, and it's not likely it will be.
And on top of that, the losers of the
semifinal playoffs have their season end after five league matches and a
single playoff match. Not a very complete and satisfying fall season.
This plan doesn't do anything to address
the fact that there are clubs currently in Division III who probably want to
be and probably should be in Division II. There are between four and six
clubs in this status.
In Fall 2001, each of the Division II clubs
have a BYE date. It is stated that they can schedule Division I B sides on
these dates. (Presumably, the VRU Division II clubs with a BYE date will be
playing VRU Division III clubs.) But, the fact is that all the Division I B
sides will be occupied playing their opponents B side. So PRU and EPRU
Division II clubs with a BYE will have just that - nothing to do, unless
they want to schedule
F^#&#@%?
New Guys (FNGs)
Who are all these FNGs?
Jeff "Stax" Carrington
was introduced to rugby at Western Suburbs in 1990. Played football in
high school, college (Randolph-Macon) and a couple of years semi-pro with
the Virginia Storm (Got to knock heads with Tory when he played for the
Frederick Falcons). With Suburbs, Stax reached the MARFU play-offs and won
the Continental Classic Tournament in Tucson. He has also been
selected to the PRU All-stars.
Scott "Little Dog"
Shackleford went to
Salisbury State with Scully and played rugby there for 4 years. Little Dog
is a wing but also plays fullback or center. Baby John Raymond was the
main reason that he started playing rugby. Scott majored in philosophy
and sociology, and is now attending Montgomery College taking a computer
course in order get his A+ certification.